So I caught the Nightline interview and saw as much of the Oprah interview on YouTube as I could. For something so intriguing with such potential, I am saddened at what is coming across in these interviews. Given what he preached before and the nature of the story, everyone wants Haggard to give an answer to whether he still believes homosexuality is a sin/wrong. To which he gives a theologically flimsy answer of, “For me it is.”
But I think the problem is we are asking the wrong question. The question doesn’t address the problem. The problem is not a particular sexuality (hetero, homo, or bi) but how we honor God in our sexual “appetite”, if you will — whatever it may be.
Granted, the question assumes you are talking about the engaging in homosexual activity, but to simply say “Homosexuality is a sin,” makes about as much sense as saying, “Heterosexuality is a sin — unless you’re married.” There is too much to be misunderstood.
To Christians
Imagine being Jewish and the Gentiles are in their backyard cooking up some BBQ pork ribs (or possibly The Bacon Explosion). No law is broken smelling the smoke and thinking, “Man, that smells delicious.” Now if you happen to hate the smell of cooking pig, be thankful for God’s grace, but what of the Hebrew BBQ lovers? How should they be treated? Should they just “pray the pork away” or “get more involved in the temple”?
I think Haggard’s experience shows how completely ill-prepared the church is when it comes to ministering to people struggling in this. Seeing that our current model of government permits free speech and would not permit mass executions (as others have), the Church’s behavior has left these people with only three choices. To either continue in shame, die in shame, or accept it and be proud of it. It is no wonder national tensions are where they are these days.
My most frustrating question for me is … given how Haggard is responding to these questions (that ultimately reveal his understanding of theology), how in the world did he ever get elevated to the title of President of the National Association of Evangelicals? His wife has communicated and lived out a more of Christian world-view through all this than he has — she is clearly more qualified than he ever was.
To Oprahlites
To say “God would never want us to suppress what comes so naturally to us” just doesn’t work when you apply it in real life. What of the person that has a natural attraction to minors? What of the heterosexual, married male that is naturally attracted to other women besides his wife?
God is very clear about how we are to handle our sexual “appetites” no matter what they are. Take it outside of sexuality and apply it other areas and it becomes even more clear. What if our natural desire is to drink all the time? Or to eat all the time? What if our natural reaction to frustration is fist-throwing rage? Surely, God wouldn’t want us to suppress that, right?
The scriptures say that man’s natural desires are in rebellion against God and give us very clear lines of what God’s holiness demands. While it may sound good, it’s not what God wants and it doesn’t work in real life.
(And on whose authority is Oprah speaking for what God really wants anyway?)
The Bottom Line
Oprahlites, the Scriptures clearly say that engaging in homosexual activity is wrong — don’t demand that Christians accept and embrace it. That’s like demanding a Muslim to remove her head covering. (How politically incorrect is that?)
Heterosexual Christians, be thankful for God’s grace regarding your sexual preference. Know your doctrine of original sin. Know that different people struggle with different things and fall in different ways. Make your church a place where the Word is proclaimed and where someone can openly share their struggle in this and be ministered to.
Random Thoughts
- We are inherently sinful from birth, and only by God’s grace is there any hope of doing anything out of faith (being righteous)
- The lack of accountability and openness in Church leadership is pretty evident
- The unspoken pressure to be perfect within church-culture needs to be addressed (how about by preaching the doctrine of original sin?)
- There has been a great misunderstanding between the Church and the pro-homosexual community. While we will never agree on the morality of the issue, misrepresenting each other only adds to the vitriol that need not exist.
- Ted needs to recognize that he is a bi-sexual and decide if he wants to honor God in his sexuality or not.
- Unless your sin is covered by the blood of Christ there will be no mercy from the coming wrath of God.
January 31, 2009 at 10:12 am
Nice piece, Guiroo… but could you clarify what you meant when you said that “the Church’s behavior has left these people with only three choices. To either continue in shame, die in shame, or accept it and be proud of it. It is no wonder national tensions are where they are these days.” And how does that relate to the prohibition on mass executions?
Those are unacceptable choices, I agree… but what choices would you like to see the church offer? Repentance is as much a “turning to” as it is a “turning from”… in your call for the church to repent of its posture toward homosexuals, you’ve made the “turn from” part pretty clear, but the “turn to” part needs some elaboration. I hope you can develop that some more… I think you’ve got some constructive ideas here.
P.S. If you ever decide to cook up a Bacon Explosion, you will invite your friends, right?
January 31, 2009 at 1:34 pm
Let me gather my thoughts and then I’ll start on chapter 2.
The mass execution thing is in reference to Hebrew law, Islamic law, and Nazi Germany. In America, the tools and potential to change the social stigma exists without fear of government force.
O’Ryan is planning his budget to be able to make a Bacon Explosion soon.
February 1, 2009 at 4:09 pm
I have a friend who’s husband was homosexual, he had cheated on her for 16 years of their marriage and she had no clue! This was with men he knew and some he just met for the occassion of gratification. They were in full time Christian Music Ministry the entire time. She is still a good friend, but since divorced and remarried. She went to counselling with him for a while when she found out, and to tried to work things out. He had felt the tension from church people that could not understand his struggle. That was her biggest complaint against the church; people couldn’t see it as a normal struggle, they want to make him out to be a criminal or freak. He eventually caved when he thought that life was not as fulfilling without satisfying his desire. He felt imprisioned and excused all scripture that pertained to homosexuality and joined a church that made him feel like a child of God in his sin. As far as I know he is still a member of that church.
Face it, it seems people are more comfortable around people that live together unmarried than those professing to be gay and needing help. It is because homosexuality is awkward even to the unbeliever. I think we just fall into the world’s perception for that.
As far as convincing others that it is wrong, we have to make sure in witnessing or ministering that it is God’s command we speak, and not our own preference. It’s by sticking to the grid of the Bible that others see that we fall short too without Christ, we aren’t out there pointing fingers to elevate our pious positions. We have the answer in Christ, because we needed the same remedy for sin. (Sorry so long!)